<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Let get 2 fact correct. RMS is responsible for anything highway ans 1 metre either side of highway. </div><div dir="auto">BVSC is responsible for all other roads within the shire. They have have no control of RMS and have to lobby to get them to do stuff. </div><div dir="auto">Vicky </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:12px;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Galaxy</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: graeme.freedman@dotindot.com </div><div>Date: 4/6/22 2:15 pm (GMT+10:00) </div><div>To: 'The Brogo Community Mailing List' <community@brogo.org.au> </div><div>Cc: 'Quaama List' <quaamacommunity@scpa.org.au>, 'Cobargo community' <cobargocommunity@scpa.org.au>, 'Bermi List' <bermaguicommunity@scpa.org.au> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Quaama Community] [Brogo Community] Brogo Bridge </div><div><br></div></div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Loki</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For those crazy enough to be interested in in this discussion I can give you the google maps link to what appears to once have been the Princes Highway ford on the Brogo River upstream of the existing bridge.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Loki - I assume this is the bypass you refer to – once used as a Princes Highway bypass - it connects Baldwins road to Blanchard’s road. Have a look in Google maps. It looks like the linking road is the Old Princes Highway but is shown in Google maps as “unnamed road”.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Link is <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@-36.5272787,149.8178091,1268m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4">https://www.google.com/maps/@-36.5272787,149.8178091,1268m/data=!3m1!1e3!5m1!1e4</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Exact lat/long for Ford (current swimming hole?) is -36.52673303590641, 149.8133544917207</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Maybe we should ask the council to re-establish this ford as a backup to the bridge when it gets (regularly) gets knocked out by accident or old age??? I am sure we could get a B double through!!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Cheers</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">---------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="MsoNormal">Graeme Freedman Owner Builder Number: 464033P </p><p class="MsoNormal">39 Link Rd, Wandella, Australia, 2550</p><p class="MsoNormal">Mobile: +61 (0) 4031 13624 </p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:graeme.freedman@dotindot.com"><span style="color:#0563C1">mailto:graeme.freedman@dotindot.com</span></a> </p><p class="MsoNormal">ABN: 36 241 512 918</p><p class="MsoNormal">----------------------------------------------------------------</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Community <community-bounces@brogo.org.au> <b>On Behalf Of </b>L.Blazki<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 4 June 2022 12:21 PM<br><b>To:</b> The Brogo Community Mailing List <community@brogo.org.au><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Brogo Community] [Quaama Community] Brogo Bridge</span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">I heard that while the bridge was being rebuilt in the 30s the highway was diverted over that little swimming spot as you come in on blanchards, I think this was all before they had cleared the pass and the highway used to go up blanchards and connect onto warrigal range somewhere... I think it's nice having old narrow bridges left around the shire, it reminds people that their precious development and need for speed was until recently considered a luxury not an essential social need, it's a legacy of the world we are slowly relegating to museums and history as a novelty of our pre civilised societies, the spectacle of incredible labour power and community fortitude that built these bridges becomes replaced with the utilitarian functionality of concrete and steel mined and processed from allover the world to be instead representative of the colonising effects of global capitalism, spreading more tar and concrete to increase the speed of economic flow. In 2122 when whatever is left of humanity is staring at a twisted chunk of concrete and steel weathered by 100 years of extreme weather events, they will look at these monuments of moloch and wonder what on earth it's purpose ever was, only the dead men and women in their crypts of cracked glass and concrete would beable to explain to them why...</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Rants aside, they seem to be doing an alright job, I'd love to see it turn back into a river crossing but if it wasn't enough in the 30s it sure isn't now, we could potentially make a bridge from all the bogged trucks though, guess bridge upgrades are better than filling up the rivers with trucks and cars if we put it all in perspective, but if we were really so "developed" where's my bloody spaceship flying car or teleporter? I think they are too busy trying to make diamonds out of climate change (as in they literally are trying to scale compressing carbon into diamonds in order to monetise what is popularly called "climate action")...</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">As an alternative I propose we find a town Gandalf to guard the pass and levitate sanctioned commuters from one side to the other? Seems just as plausible as this "let's try and please everyone by throwing some band aids on this old bridge until people eventually form consensus that the dignams bypass doesn't look like an an airport and that we are more then happy to have another landing strip bridging the waterways of the region" style of approach. Anyway it's far from its first surgery, how historic is a historic bridge that has been renovated atleast 4-5 times since? I think it's an interesting issue, ultimately boiling down to what our individual values of progress and development are, but ultimately everyone uses the bridge (except that bloke buzzing around with the fan) regardless of whether they see it as a historic monument or a piece of infrastructure that needs upgrading, I think the collective concern should be around how can they put so much money into CBD development in Merimbula, but one of the most trafficked bridges in the region will just be "good to go" for another few years... Hope everyone's enjoying their 10 minute pit stop at the pass anyway,</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Love and space from Loki </p></div><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" class="MsoNormal"><br>On 4 Jun 2022, at 10:59 AM, Gerry Theodorakis <<a href="mailto:gerry.theodorakis01@gmail.com">gerry.theodorakis01@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Re alignment & bridge replacement imperative before a major catastrophe !! </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Billions of tax based $$$ lost every year via tax minimising schemes ( scams ) - perfect funding for both of the nasty & narrow bridges between Brogo River & Bega.</p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, 4 Jun 2022, 9:51 am <a href="mailto:Graeme.freedman@dotindot.com">Graeme.freedman@dotindot.com</a>, <<a href="mailto:Graeme.freedman@dotindot.com">Graeme.freedman@dotindot.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Don - thanks for the history of the bridge - does anyone know what happened to the traffic between 1934 and the rebuild in 1937 - or did they just cut off bega from the rest of the coast? Sounds like that might happen anyway if they have no plans to replace it now it is 30 odd years past its design life and a constant danger because of its width and poor alignment - does anyone have a history of accidents on the bridge? Might be worth putting pressure on the authority's to get the narrow prince's highway bridges replaced - need some background work done <br><br>------------------------------------------</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Graeme Freedman<br>Owner Builder Number: 464033P<br>39 Link Rd, Wandella 2550 <br>Mobile: +61 (0) 4031 13624<br>mailto:<a href="mailto:graeme.freedman@dotindot.com">graeme.freedman@dotindot.com</a><br>ABN: 36 241 512 918</p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Don Firth <<a href="mailto:donaldofirth@gmail.com">donaldofirth@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2022, 8:07 am<br>To: Mailing list for the Brogo Community <<a href="mailto:community@brogo.org.au">community@brogo.org.au</a>>, Quaama List <<a href="mailto:quaamacommunity@scpa.org.au">quaamacommunity@scpa.org.au</a>>, Cobargo community <<a href="mailto:cobargocommunity@scpa.org.au">cobargocommunity@scpa.org.au</a>>, Bermi List <<a href="mailto:bermaguicommunity@scpa.org.au">bermaguicommunity@scpa.org.au</a>><br>Subject: [Quaama Community] Brogo Bridge</p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Update on repairs- Yesterday they finished repairing the downstream side of the bridge and have now moved on to the more extensively damaged upstream side. </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">So, they are about halfway given the extensive scaff.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">It is a venerable bridge completed at the end of 1937. It was then the longest bridge of its type in the Southern Hemisphere. It replaced the upstream 1885 timber trestle bridge (with double diagonal planking) which was washed away in floods of 1934. </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The current concrete and steel structure was built to have a lifespan of 60 years! Its design does not allow for it to be widened so eventually .......</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Don</p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Community@brogo.org.au">Community@brogo.org.au</a><br><a href="http://brogo.org.au/mailman/listinfo/community_brogo.org.au">http://brogo.org.au/mailman/listinfo/community_brogo.org.au</a></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Community@brogo.org.au">Community@brogo.org.au</a><br><a href="http://brogo.org.au/mailman/listinfo/community_brogo.org.au">http://brogo.org.au/mailman/listinfo/community_brogo.org.au</a></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>